me, too. if you do shows and programs that you know are t going to reach the same level of penetration that an entertainment show is going to reach, at the same time you know there is a sufficiently large global audience th has the same curiosity about politics, about culture, ant movies, about technology. and that's a huge audience and you can now reach that audience. >> and then what you do-- which i think is another form of this multiplatform providing-- is you have an amazing web site where i can go to your web site and y what was the last time you interviewed richard holbrooke? when was the last time you interviewed john updike? i can find those interviews and that is an incredible cultural sour, actually. >> people like that had 2, 30, 40 interviews. i think holbrooke had 50, john updike maybe 10, 20. anyway, this. it seems to me that the most important event... what wasit originly post-america was released when? >> 2008. 2007 is basically when i wrote it.